Fuente recruited right in VT’s range. Who’s gonna do appreciably better? -- marcbvtgm 11/16/2021 9:41PM
Just heard the news.It has made my day.Just get a coach that can recruit !! ** -- STEAMBOAT 11/16/2021 3:32PM
26th ranked or higher classes and Top 5 in the ACC in 4 of his 6 years. -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 3:44PM
Respectfully, recruiting is important, but also includes -- Marooned 11/16/2021 8:48PM
Those are definitely important. I would not consider them to be recruiting -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 9:19PM
See scUM and where did that get them- how about someone who is a real -- sacramento hokie 11/16/2021 6:09PM
Again... I was responding specifically to a post about recruiting. Why is -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:11PM
What did he due with those first four recruiting classes? Imagine what he -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:04PM
In other words "Yeah your point is correct but I don't like it so I'll -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:06PM
Your point is not correct. There's no argument. He's failed as a -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:16PM
Now you've tried to narrow it to "he's failed as a recruiter in two of the -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:18PM
44 is greater than 76, you're right. 44 is also equal to JF's 2016 -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:22PM
Feel free to take a look at my original post which now contains the data. -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:26PM
Like who Jerrod Evans? ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:28PM
BTW I believe you mean Jerod Evans, only one r. I know you are very -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:01PM
Meant* ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 7:05PM
Nope... mean is fine there. Keep trying. ** -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:06PM
Yes the top player in that class was recruited by Fuente. Hence why I said -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:31PM
How about 11/22? ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:34PM
It's next Monday? ** -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:57PM
Number of JF recruits in that class. That's kinda more than a few. ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:59PM
And you're getting that number from? ** -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:00PM
I know you're a simp, but I trust you can figure it out for yourself. ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 7:03PM
And you've finally arrived at flat out name calling. The last sign of -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:05PM
Quit making excuses your time is up ** -- sbarron 11/16/2021 5:54PM
Ha ha ok... pointing out a fact is "making excuses"? And I have no idea -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 5:58PM
Sounds dubious, but even if true, numbers aren't everything -- BigDave 11/16/2021 4:46PM
Not really apples to apples -- JoWood07 11/16/2021 6:21PM
Not dubious at all. Numbers from 247 and include the current year's class. -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:51PM
The fact that JF could not develop decent recruiting classes tells all. ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:06PM
The fact that you have to try to shift the argument away from recruiting -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:07PM
How is not developing recruits shifting away from recruiting? Smh. -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:13PM
*Usually You're welcome! :-) ** -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:21PM
Because player development and recruiting are two completely different -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:15PM
Majority of the recruits are playing else where now. But I guess it's -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:20PM
Again where a player ends up is not relevant to the point I was making. -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:22PM
What is your point? That having the 26th ranked class in the country is -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:24PM
My point was literally stated in my first post in this topic. That Fuente -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:29PM
What is the significance of that point? Nothing. ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:35PM
The original post was about getting a coach that can recruit. My post was -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:36PM
Not being "all that bad a recruiting" is irrelevant when you can't develp -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:42PM
*Develop You're welcome! :-) ** -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:17PM
Again it is 100% relevant in the context of the post I was responding to -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:45PM
Yes dubious. 44th national- 8 in ACC recruit avg -- Concord Dan 11/16/2021 5:37PM
Double checked my numbers. They are accurate. ** -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:13PM
Source please. Again I got my numbers directly from 247. They are not -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 5:41PM
247 rank by avg recruit Also known as simple sort** -- Concord Dan 11/16/2021 5:43PM
Numbers provided in my initial post. Please post yours or retract and -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:16PM
Are you counting the 2016 class? Care to give the year by year rankings so -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 5:44PM
Who cares? ** -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:25PM
Yeah who cares about facts or making people back up their claims. It's -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:32PM
You also must consider needs IE too many WRs too few DTs etc -- Concord Dan 11/16/2021 5:49PM
Is that a yes you're counting 2016? I'm not "considering" anything. I -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 5:52PM
So why do you think FU failed here… or do you ?🤔 ** -- VPI63 11/16/2021 5:28PM
My take is similar to what CC said in his article today: -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 5:50PM
Not according to this article -- JACHokies 11/16/2021 4:06PM
That was the Covid class. That's why the recruiting bounced back in 2022. -- lchoro 11/16/2021 4:18PM
Yeah I expect the COVID recruiting classes to have more variability than -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:24PM
Same reason Huff has a big recruiting class, 1 yr after HC retired -- lchoro 11/16/2021 4:33PM
Yes recruiting was the number 1 problem -- capitals1 11/16/2021 4:10PM
Recruiting wasn't the number 1 problem. I'm not even sure it was in the -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:27PM
Our recruiting sucked the last 2 years -- capitals1 11/16/2021 6:25PM
Again this is not correct. Last year was higher than the previous year and -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:27PM
I took my numbers straight from 247. Feel free to double check them. You -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:08PM
So you agree the recent trend is down ** -- HokieJamie 11/16/2021 4:13PM
And just to follow up... the trend isn't even down excluding the current -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:20PM
No b/c the current class is ranked 20th, the highest of any of Fuente's. -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:14PM
It’s at 20 because the 5* have not committed yet .. -- VPI63 11/16/2021 5:33PM
There's only 34 5 star players total so it's unlikely than any of them -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 5:40PM
Part of recruiting is to develop them once they are on campus. This staff -- HokieJamie 11/16/2021 4:05PM
Disagree. You're conflating player development with recruiting and they -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:06PM
Player development is what hsppens after they're on the team -- culpmania 11/16/2021 6:35PM
I'm not "skipping that part" at all. There's just no quantifiable ranking -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:39PM
Rankings and player evaluation are both part -- culpmania 11/16/2021 7:08PM
Recruiting is getting the players to commit and sign. Development is what -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 7:13PM
He’s not read @JACHokies post. Your 4 of las 6 years is very deceptive -- HokieJamie 11/16/2021 4:09PM
No "deception" at all. You're focusing on the worst classes and I'm taking -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:10PM
Because the worst ones are the most recent. If the scenario was flipped -- HokieJamie 11/16/2021 4:14PM
Glad you admit that yours and other's arguments are biased. Like I said I'm -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:17PM
Keep telling yourself that. How many of those players are still -- McBain 11/16/2021 4:02PM
That is not Fu's fault.... -- Hokie_N_NC 11/16/2021 4:12PM
How many that are still here or any better from when they stepped on campus ** -- HokieJamie 11/16/2021 4:09PM
Telling myself what? Facts that don't fit your narrative? One of us -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:05PM
The only non sequitur (no hyphen fyi) is why JF's first four recruiting -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:38PM
Feel free to argue how all of a coach's recruiting classes don't matter -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:43PM
"All of a coach's recruiting classes" (terrible grammar) matter, -- wrwadd5 11/16/2021 6:52PM
It doesn't ignore them at all. They are literally listed in the post. -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 6:56PM
Roster Management and Lack of Player Development -- Rationalist 11/16/2021 4:02PM
The post I was replying to was about recruiting. Nothing in there about -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:04PM
A big part of recruiting is player evaluation -- culpmania 11/16/2021 4:38PM
Except the rankings I'm using aren't Fuente's. They're 247's. If you are -- AbsolutVT03 11/16/2021 4:41PM